Eggs and Choline: Something Fishy
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You don't prescribe pills, do you?
You don't know
This is all bullshit. Take a look at dr bergs videos about eggs and also dr ekbergs videos
Read the book The Cholesterol Myth
The average American consumes up to 1000mg of Choline a day!? Get ready for bigger problems than a Choline deficiency
Egg yolks do not have LDL (BAD) cholesterol! There are two types: high-density lipoprotein (HDL) and low-density lipoprotein (LDL). As a general rule, HDL is considered “good” cholesterol, while LDL is considered “bad.” This is because HDL carries cholesterol to your liver, where it can be removed from your bloodstream before it builds up in your arteries. LDL, on the other hand, takes cholesterol directly to your arteries. This can result in atherosclerosis, a plaque buildup that can even cause heart attack and stroke. Touting that eggs will give you a heart attack is very outdated and proven wrong. As far as Choline goes, its in eggs and most animal products. No big deal. Around 130mg an egg to be exact. This came from independent labs, not ad based propaganda.
That choline intake is bullcrap I have no idea where you dug up those lies. Look at food data yourself this was completely false. Most people fall VERY short. Even if you ate the right foods you’d be JUST meeting the 50%-100%; if you ate right for it. Most people don’t or more than 50%. 1,000mg is a complete lie that’s almost ALMOST impossible.
Vegans die from atherosclerosis too. So, this non vegetarian / atherosclerosis link is just another speculation by vegans and doctors.
following a WFPB diet, I think Im not getting even closes to the recommended 500mg/day. Despite TMAO, should I consider supplementing?
I feel depressed from choline
Choline is excellent for cleaning "fatty liver"!
https://youtu.be/cKLmorBIOVE
Cholesterol is largely made by the liver, and is made more if we have high fat diets. So yes limit that. The choline debate is a shocker all round. It is essential! We don’t manufacture enough so must get it from food. Dr, you omit saying choline is found at high levels in some nuts, seeds and your favourite.. beans!!, not just eggs and meat. Then you say it MAY be linked to cancer and early death .. . This debate is based in limited science and skewed to biased organisations, including nutrition facts which raises huge money in donations to cover big salaries in dubious scientific readings, NOT peer research.
Would love to know Dr. Greger's recommended daily intake of choline for vegans then. I am pregnant right now and the midwives are pushing eggs like crazy because of choline but I can't stomach the idea for a multitude of reasons. But choline keeps popping up and it's so hard to find good info on it. This video is informative in that it states that Americans get too much choline which can be damaging, but then makes the recommendation to eat 400+ mg per day…which is really hard to get on a vegan diet.
In conclusion, in this systematic review and meta-analysis of prospective cohort studies, we found no evidence of a positive association between dietary choline or betaine and incident CVD
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5537826/
550 mg is the recommended amount. The only reasonable way to get that is by eating two eggs. Seems to me that number is too high
My grandfather had two poached eggs every morning till he was 85 he also smoked camel non filter til the day he dief
Given the information in this new study which says there is a risk that pregnant vegan women could be low in choline, how would you respond? https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/amp/326209
What people don’t realize is this guy really does not look that strong or healthy either.. An seems very phoney
Eggs are a superfood and cholesterol is essential for life. Any epidemiological study that fails the Bradford Hill criteria is junk associational pseudo-science. This case study from the 1990s proves my point. 88 year old man ate on average 25 eggs a day for 15 years with zero health issues. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/1953841
The studies you talk about fail most of the criteria 2, 4, 5, 6?, 7 & 8, when one considers this 1991 case study. (2) consistent finding in different people “88 year old human paradox”, (4) effect occurs after cause “eating heaps of eggs for 15 years”, (5) Greater exposure “25 eggs a day, over 15 years” should generally lead to greater incidence of the effect, (6) cholesterol and saturated fat has failed in countless studies to generate a risk ratio similar to smoking, let alone explain how it occurs in the body, (7 & 8) Epidemiology laboratory or experimental evidence are at odds, plus this man is a living case experiment, that their conclusions fail comprehensively. This is a failed hypothesis, which should be disposed of.
I would like to request doctor Gregor that while you were promoting veganism for health please do not fall into the Trap of the vegan cult, even though you are majorly promoting veganism if you find any non vegetarian food something like eggs or sometimes even fish please do admit if it is beneficial for the health, you do not have to go 100% veganism just for the heck of it.
Sorry, but where did this bloke crop up from?. Many of his videos have recently appeared on my "for you" list, and he is against every food that I have seen confirmed as healthy for you. What is his motive????
Funded by FDA I suppose …..one research says this another research says that, potentially this and potentially that. I know where this is going, i am on ketone diet, with natural and organic food sources. I have been on choline up take with Inositol. Love to Inform you its been divine. And for all the women I slept with, never once have I heard any one complain about by body stink (after hours of game time ) !
Inositol + Choline = Divine Prime human being.
Most beneficial thing on the planet after
Compile supplement load :
Magnesium (every day 400 mg)
Boron (every day 6 mg)
Copper + Zinc (3 times a week )
Astaxanthin (every 3 days 6 mg)
Choline + Inositol (daily 1000mg)
Potassium (cream of tartar)
Iodine ( twice a week)
Omega 3 on
Sundays ( helps me face Mondays lol)
4 eggs per days ( cholesterol is last thing I worry about since my liver burn everything oily) choline flushes out Cholesterol.
Divine state of mind
I do my blood work every three months and have no problems whatsoever. Even my doctor took notes when i met him the second time, as he was curious how can I be like this ( Steel body and soul) I only wish more people know the truth and make a better choice.
I lived with Anxiety 15 years since my teens and today, work and Play hard folks. No regrets !!!!
Man you vegans are fucking so biased and dumb!! My grandmother ate eggs and drank raw milk everyday on a farm she lived till 98.. Vegans are the cancer of the earth, stop lying for fuck sakes!!
So for vegans we just have to focus on adequate intake of B6, B12, and Folate to reduce Homocystine levels?
Have fun eating hen periods you sick fucks
This article supports this http://www.menshealth.com/health/do-eggs-cause-prostate-cancer
What about the role of choline as a precursor to neurotransmitters?
so what the hell is this video saying?? is choline good or bad???
I would like to see these studies with free range eggs. Chickens fed with free access to bugs, weeds, grass among other things that healthy free roaming chikens would eat may have better nutrition profiles in their meat than commercial eggs who live in the dark stressed every day. Maybe commercial chickens have stress hormones in their meat and eggs that could be the problem with human disease.
I have fatty liver disease and cholesterolosis, I was advised to eat eggs as they are good for the liver by a natural doc, confused, eggs I was told have choline but also have sulphur and amino acids need for phase I and II detox inside the liver, really confused.
NutritionFacts.org will have you very sick if not dead if one followed their information.
I'd be so much better able to believe this vid if the voiceover guy wasn't so smug and there wasn't so many noot guys extoling the benefits of choline
Pick and choose articles to support your argument? What is the alternative hypothesis?
im vegetarian transitioning to vegan and i dont understand this at all. isnt choline an essential nutrient? http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19906248
women need about ~400mg a day and men ~500mg from what i can remember. highest veg sources of choline are cruciferous veg and one would need to eat almost 1kg of broccoli or cauliflower to get only ~350mg choline. everyday. i hope someone can clear this up.